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Writer's pictureDavid Shands

When do you know it’s time to quit? Social Proof HOT Seat #13





Results matter, not just teaching.



In the podcast transcript, the conversation revolves around the idea that results matter, not just teaching. The entrepreneur, who is also a fashion designer, discusses her experiences as a teacher and mentor, highlighting the importance of students taking action and implementing what they have learned.

The entrepreneur expresses her confidence in her fashion design skills, stating that she does not need validation in that area. She acknowledges that someone could criticize her designs, but she knows they are not bad. This confidence in her abilities is crucial in the creative industry, where self-belief and self-assurance are necessary to succeed.


However, the conversation takes a turn when the entrepreneur discusses her experience as a teacher and mentor. She mentions that many people have asked her to be their mentor and requested classes from her. Initially, she started a mentorship program and offered classes because of these requests. However, the conversation delves deeper into the fact that not everyone who expressed interest actually followed through with paying for the classes or implementing what they learned.


The entrepreneur expresses frustration with potential students wanting her classes to be cheap, despite the value and expertise she offers. She believes that her skills are equivalent to those taught in expensive fashion schools, which can cost tens of thousands of dollars. She charges $1,000 for her classes, which she believes is a fair price considering the potential earnings and the condensed timeframe in which she teaches the skills.


The conversation then shifts to the idea of being a good teacher. The entrepreneur confidently asserts that she is a great teacher based on the transformations she sees in her students and their positive feedback. However, the other person in the conversation challenges her definition of a good teacher, stating that a good teacher is someone who gets results.


The other person uses the example of teaching someone how to start a podcast. They argue that if a YouTube video on starting a podcast receives thousands of views and comments, but none of those viewers actually start a podcast, then it is the fault of the teacher for not effectively motivating and guiding their students.

The entrepreneur counters this argument by stating that it is ultimately up to the students to put in the work and implement what they have learned. She shares her own experience of learning from her mentor and then putting in the work to showcase her skills, which led to opportunities and recognition. She believes that if her students have learned the skill but choose not to put it into practice, it is not her fault as a teacher.


The conversation concludes with a broader critique of the coaching industry, where teaching is often seen as the main service provided. However, the other person argues that teaching alone is not enough. A good teacher should be able to motivate and guide their students to take action and achieve results. They use the example of a personal trainer who can teach exercises but also needs to find ways to get their clients to actually go to the gym.


In conclusion, the podcast conversation highlights the importance of results, not just teaching. While teaching is essential, it is the ability to motivate and guide students to take action and achieve their goals that truly defines a good teacher. The entrepreneur in the conversation recognizes this distinction and believes that her students' lack of implementation is not her responsibility as a teacher. This discussion sheds light on the challenges faced by teachers and mentors in various industries and emphasizes the need for both teaching and inspiring action to achieve desired results.






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